Comments for wrkng http://wrkng.net Nick's Notebook Fri, 26 Feb 2010 05:07:45 -0800 hourly 1 Comment on Say Hello to Civic Works by Marty Barfowitz http://wrkng.net/2010/02/say-hello-to-civic-works/comment-page-1/#comment-11218 Marty Barfowitz Fri, 26 Feb 2010 05:07:45 +0000 http://wrkng.net/2010/02/topp-labs-is-dead-long-live-civic-works/#comment-11218 Bullshit. I won this thing. Bullshit. I won this thing.

]]> Comment on Phone Idol: an experiment in web-enabled telephony by Nick http://wrkng.net/2010/02/phone-idol-an-experiment-in-web-enabled-telephony/comment-page-1/#comment-11116 Nick Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:05:23 +0000 http://wrkng.net/2010/02/phone-idol-an-experiment-in-web-enabled-telephony/#comment-11116 Update: code now available on github: http://github.com/nickgrossman/Phone-Idol Update: code now available on github: http://github.com/nickgrossman/Phone-Idol

]]> Comment on Say Hello to Civic Works by noel Hidalgo http://wrkng.net/2010/02/say-hello-to-civic-works/comment-page-1/#comment-10509 noel Hidalgo Sat, 20 Feb 2010 01:20:15 +0000 http://wrkng.net/2010/02/topp-labs-is-dead-long-live-civic-works/#comment-10509 great name! great name!

]]> Comment on TOPP Labs needs a new name by Nick http://wrkng.net/2010/02/topp-labs-needs-a-new-name/comment-page-1/#comment-10508 Nick Sat, 20 Feb 2010 00:36:23 +0000 http://wrkng.net/2010/02/topp-labs-needs-a-new-name/#comment-10508 The deed is done. http://wrkng.net/2010/02/say-hello-to-civic-works/ Thanks everyone -- we couldn't have done it (as well) without you! The deed is done.

http://wrkng.net/2010/02/say-hello-to-civic-works/

Thanks everyone — we couldn’t have done it (as well) without you!

]]> Comment on TOPP Labs needs a new name by Say hello to Civic Works » wrkng http://wrkng.net/2010/02/topp-labs-needs-a-new-name/comment-page-1/#comment-10507 Say hello to Civic Works » wrkng Sat, 20 Feb 2010 00:15:54 +0000 http://wrkng.net/2010/02/topp-labs-needs-a-new-name/#comment-10507 [...] you so much to everyone who helped us think through our re-name of TOPP Labs yesterday.  Your feedback and insights were absolutely invaluable to our [...] [...] you so much to everyone who helped us think through our re-name of TOPP Labs yesterday.  Your feedback and insights were absolutely invaluable to our [...]

]]> Comment on TOPP Labs needs a new name by Noel Hidalgo http://wrkng.net/2010/02/topp-labs-needs-a-new-name/comment-page-1/#comment-10506 Noel Hidalgo Fri, 19 Feb 2010 22:25:42 +0000 http://wrkng.net/2010/02/topp-labs-needs-a-new-name/#comment-10506 if you're looking for some bad ass street street cred, i would have a blog titled "the journal of civic hacking" or "civic hacking quarterly" if you’re looking for some bad ass street street cred, i would have a blog titled “the journal of civic hacking” or “civic hacking quarterly”

]]> Comment on TOPP Labs needs a new name by Jeff http://wrkng.net/2010/02/topp-labs-needs-a-new-name/comment-page-1/#comment-10505 Jeff Fri, 19 Feb 2010 22:00:27 +0000 http://wrkng.net/2010/02/topp-labs-needs-a-new-name/#comment-10505 Was thinking that we need to open up the language a little here. What you guys do is to make the city easier to use. Sorta turbocharge access to it. WARNING: Unedited brain dump coming.. - Civic Layer Lab - Urban Upcoding Project - Hyper Planning LTD - Urban Coding - The Functional City Project - Code to Action - Coding the City - Coding for a New City - Civisimplify - CivicCode - ThinkCity - MakeCity - Urban Data Insitute - SimpleCivic - AHHHH! I can't think of any more - Civic Idea Center - PlaceCoders - CivicInfo - Urban Information - Urban Layer Makers - EasyCiv - The Layered City Project - The Community Layer Lab - Unicorn Rainbow Code Nursery. - I'm out. Jeff Was thinking that we need to open up the language a little here. What you guys do is to make the city easier to use. Sorta turbocharge access to it.

WARNING: Unedited brain dump coming..

- Civic Layer Lab
- Urban Upcoding Project
- Hyper Planning LTD
- Urban Coding
- The Functional City Project
- Code to Action
- Coding the City
- Coding for a New City
- Civisimplify
- CivicCode
- ThinkCity
- MakeCity
- Urban Data Insitute
- SimpleCivic
- AHHHH! I can’t think of any more
- Civic Idea Center
- PlaceCoders
- CivicInfo
- Urban Information
- Urban Layer Makers
- EasyCiv
- The Layered City Project
- The Community Layer Lab
- Unicorn Rainbow Code Nursery.
- I’m out.

Jeff

]]> Comment on TOPP Labs needs a new name by Nick http://wrkng.net/2010/02/topp-labs-needs-a-new-name/comment-page-1/#comment-10503 Nick Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:56:02 +0000 http://wrkng.net/2010/02/topp-labs-needs-a-new-name/#comment-10503 @Noel - I agree with that. I don't see us having "hacking" or "hacker" in the official name. Do you think maintaining the Civic Hacker blog would have the same effect? I kinda think not, and I like it for its dev cred. @Noel – I agree with that. I don’t see us having “hacking” or “hacker” in the official name. Do you think maintaining the Civic Hacker blog would have the same effect? I kinda think not, and I like it for its dev cred.

]]> Comment on TOPP Labs needs a new name by Noel Hidalgo http://wrkng.net/2010/02/topp-labs-needs-a-new-name/comment-page-1/#comment-10502 Noel Hidalgo Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:51:14 +0000 http://wrkng.net/2010/02/topp-labs-needs-a-new-name/#comment-10502 as a govie/govvy/gov-ee, i hate to say this, but you need to be careful with "hacking." it's like branding yourself as an insurgent, it WILL cut both ways and it will hurt at times. if you do go that route, make sure you have full body armor and a solid helmet. as a govie/govvy/gov-ee, i hate to say this, but you need to be careful with “hacking.” it’s like branding yourself as an insurgent, it WILL cut both ways and it will hurt at times. if you do go that route, make sure you have full body armor and a solid helmet.

]]> Comment on TOPP Labs needs a new name by Nick http://wrkng.net/2010/02/topp-labs-needs-a-new-name/comment-page-1/#comment-10498 Nick Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:23:29 +0000 http://wrkng.net/2010/02/topp-labs-needs-a-new-name/#comment-10498 @John I think we are definitely leaning towards some sort of [meaningfully-named project/product] -> [aspirational group/org name] kind of model. I think the biggest question is how many layers are appropriate -- given the current arrangement, it would be [project] -> [new-topp-labs-as-incubator-group] -> TOPP. IMO, that's probably too many layers. Even if that describes our internal structure, that's probably not how we'd want to present it publicly. I like the idea of having a quasi-public identity for [new-topp-labs]: less public than the present arrangement (i.e., no entire dedicated website), rather more of a translucent layer on top of individual initiatives. So for example, I could see the Civic Hacker blog moving to http://civichacker.org, with light branding somewhere that says: The Civic Hacker. A project of [Alpha Code Werkz / New TOPP Labs] at The Open Planning Project. Then, the link to new-topp-labs goes back to an overview page at http://openplans.org/new-topp-labs. This is still the three-layer model, I guess, but one that frames [new-topp-labs] less as an organization in its own right, and more of an internal program. Just thinking out loud here; I don't have this totally figured yet. What feels most comfortable at the moment is a neither-black-nor-white approach to whether [new-topp-labs] is an outward facing initiative or just an internal group. @John I think we are definitely leaning towards some sort of [meaningfully-named project/product] -> [aspirational group/org name] kind of model. I think the biggest question is how many layers are appropriate — given the current arrangement, it would be [project] -> [new-topp-labs-as-incubator-group] -> TOPP. IMO, that’s probably too many layers. Even if that describes our internal structure, that’s probably not how we’d want to present it publicly.

I like the idea of having a quasi-public identity for [new-topp-labs]: less public than the present arrangement (i.e., no entire dedicated website), rather more of a translucent layer on top of individual initiatives.

So for example, I could see the Civic Hacker blog moving to http://civichacker.org, with light branding somewhere that says: The Civic Hacker. A project of [Alpha Code Werkz / New TOPP Labs] at The Open Planning Project. Then, the link to new-topp-labs goes back to an overview page at http://openplans.org/new-topp-labs. This is still the three-layer model, I guess, but one that frames [new-topp-labs] less as an organization in its own right, and more of an internal program.

Just thinking out loud here; I don’t have this totally figured yet. What feels most comfortable at the moment is a neither-black-nor-white approach to whether [new-topp-labs] is an outward facing initiative or just an internal group.

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